The Moos Room™

Joe: Welcome to The Moos Room, everybody. The OG3 is here. No guests today. We're going to get into a topic that's actually farm-related but not cow related. Just so we do get our daily dose of cows, we have some updates. Bradley has just fallen off the wagon. He's fallen off the wagon hard. He's got cows again. He's got cows again. He's got Jersey cattle at his house. Brad, tell us what's going on.
Bradley: Oh, yes. Of course, I always go off the deep end more and more all the time. I brought home two heifers again, show heifers that are Jerseys, four months of age. One was out of my cow but everybody knows that I milked over pandemic-type stuff. They're doing well. Now there's four. People keep bothering me like, "We want a brown Swiss," or, "We want to Guernsey." I don't know. We'll see where we'll go from there. We could be in the Guernsey business or the brown Swiss business.
Emily: You could get into Dutch belted business
Bradley: We could if I could find some. You never know.
Joe: Why stop there? Just get one of every breed. Have a little display at your place.
Emily: Yes, it can be like a mooseum.
Joe: Oh, that was bad.
Emily: Anyways. Bradley has four for now.
Bradley: It's bad habits, but--
Emily: We'll check in in a month and see how they are.
Bradley: Right. There may be some Holsteins too or something. You never know, but as of right now, there are Jerseys, and that is it. There is nothing else. There is no other correct answer.
Joe: That's good. I'm glad that you're staying strong. Stay strong. Now that we've talked about cows, we've got our cows in. Today, we're going to switch topics and talk about our companion animals that are on the farm. We're going to skip horses just because we're going to.
Emily: We're skipping horses.
Joe: We're skipping horses. We're talking about dogs and cats today. Dogs and cats. Other companion animals that we find on the farm. Sometimes, they have a job. Sometimes, they are just there purely for companionship. Emily's dad has transitioned, and we all know Dale Krekelberg, he was on the show. He's transitioned his dairy farm to a cat ranch now. What's going on there?
Emily: Yes. The Dale Krekelberg Kitty Ranch. I think it is definitely a little bit of a placeholder since selling the cows, that my dad has a pretty keen interest in the cats on the farm, but we've always had a lot of cats around. They have always done an excellent job managing pests for us. With cows, especially if they're doing their job, they get to stay. My dad has decided that they need better living conditions, so he has transitioned the front tie stall in the old dairy barn to a little hotbox for the cats. It has plywood on three sides. There's a little heat lamp on there.
Yes, you walk into the barn and you look down right away at the first stall, on any given day, there's probably 15 to 25 cats piled up under that lamp. So it is quite the operation. Those cats have a pretty good life.
Joe: It sounds like it. That's a pretty good life. I like Emily's point though about having a job and getting to stay. Cats, for me, especially, I might be biased because I'm not a huge cat fan, I'll make that clear, but if they have a job, and there are mouse and then keeping pests under control, that's perfect. They can stick around all they want as long as they're doing that. Yes, there are some issues we'll get into with cats and how we can keep them healthy and keep that cat ranch and that kitty ranch going and make sure that we don't lose too many. We're going to talk about dogs as well.
They play a big part in our life. Like I said, they have jobs sometimes, to whether they warn us that someone's on the farm or even if they weren't cattle for us, guard gates. A good dog, a really good dog that's trained well can be priceless, and they can make your day a lot easier. We'll talk about how to keep everybody healthy. How to make sure that they're around as long as they can be. Let's start with dogs. I think we got to start there. We'll get to cats at the end.
Emily: Everybody likes dogs.
Joe: Everyone likes dogs, for the most part. I'll say that the biggest thing for me with the dog is making sure that they're trained well. When dogs, especially when they're working with cattle, they have to be trained well and know what they're doing and listen to the person that is around to control them. I've worked with a bunch of great dogs. They're amazing to work with, and I've worked with some dogs that could use a lot of work and that have tried to turn bulls around on me and send them back towards the shoot. It can be really dangerous if they're not trained to do the right thing or if they're not under control.
Keep that in mind. We won't get into that piece of it too much, because I'm certainly not a dog training expert, especially a cattle dog training expert.
Emily: I will say, kudos to Joe. I have watched his dog, his old hunting buddy, Murphy, a few times. Murphy is a very well-trained dog. Joe doesn't just talk the talk. He walks the walk. I'm always appreciative for what a gentleman Murphy is.
Joe: Oh, thank you. Muph's got some manners. They're slipping in his old age, but he's got some that have lingered on. Emily, did you have a dog growing up? Did you have a favorite dog on the farm? What did they do on the farm for you?
Emily: Yes. We've always had a dog on our farm. Even now, even with the kitty ranch, there's a dog there too. Shout out to Otis. Otis is the first dog on that farm that I can recall that's not a yellow lab. We always had yellow labs, and two really stick out to me, but the main one, and when people ask me like, "Who's been my favorite pet? Favorite dog, whatever. That's our dog, Duncan. Duncan Krekelberg. May he rest in peace. He's been gone for a while, but he was a really good dog. As far as his jobs, he was a very good driveway alarm, which we really appreciated.
Also, I would say, I think he really provided a lot of peace of mind for my parents because if any of us kids were outside, he was with the kids. Even if there was a tractor to be running next to or my dad was doing something, he would be with the kids. Yes, he was just a good dog. I remember we had a trampoline. One time, my sister fell off the trampoline. Duncan started to bark to let my mom know that something was wrong. He was a very, very good dog and very, very special to us because he fit right in with our family. Duncan was also an amputee.
He lost his right front leg while we had him. He was following us when we were hauling hay and we didn't realize and he unfortunately got hit by a car. He survived. They did have to amputate his leg, and he lived many, many happy years after that, but very much a very special member of the family and always will be because he just blends right in with us.
Joe: I had a dog growing up named Duncan as well, so I didn't tell you guys that before we started recording. Yes, his name was Duncan as well.
Emily: It's a good name.
Joe: It's wonderful. The big thing that you hit on, Em, and what I've talked to with farmers and their dogs has been, especially guys that work alone a lot, and people that work alone a lot, having a dog so you just don't feel alone is a big deal. It can give you some peace of mind, especially the driveway alarm. I think that's that's huge, especially because sometimes, there's loud equipment. Sometimes, you're back and deep in the barn, you can't keep an eye on everything.That dog serves a really good function there, but even just having some companionship, even if it's not human, is a huge, huge bump to your mental health, and can keep you going and gives you someone to feel like you're working with.
That's an underrated portion of dogs. I'm going to go ahead and say that that's the thing you can get from a dog that you might not be able to get from a cat. You can see where my bias is leaning a little bit here.
Emily: We're very pro dog on The Moos Room here, but cats are nice, too. Something else that we were kind of talking about before we started this episode, with Duncan, I just remember my dad saying like, "Oh, this is the most money I've ever spent on a farm dog before." He was more than just our farm dog. He really was family, and I remember when he had to get his surgery, it was very hard. I definitely cried. I was very sad, but we have to talk about that too. As Joe was saying at the beginning, keeping our pets healthy and making some of those health decisions for them.
I don't think it was even a question of if we were going to get Duncan's leg surgery done. It was just like, "Yes, we're doing it." Sometimes, you do need to think about some of those things and figure out what the best care is. Joe, maybe just run us through some of the basics, health and care stuff, shots. I know we'd always get our dogs their vaccines when the vet was out and that kind of stuff. Run us through the what people should know?
Joe: Before we get into the direct health stuff, one of the big things, and we talked about it with the highway being super dangerous or the road, that is a big piece, and probably the piece that's most dangerous for our dogs especially and cats as well. With dogs, I think one of the things that we forget, especially when we get a puppy, and we have that dog from a young age, is that they can start learning right away. They can be six, seven, eight weeks old, and you can start training right away. There's a lot of resources out there, older resources that will tell you, you should probably wait until six months to do any serious training with your dog.
That is a load of BS, absolute BS. Start right away. That dog can learn right away, and any habits that they pick up, good or bad, in that first six months, they're going to carry for the rest of their life. Really putting the time in and front loading that training into the eight-week to six-month range is huge. That can include, don't go on the road, stuff like that. Making sure your recall command like calling your dog back to is really strong so that if they are in a dangerous situation, you can get them to you as soon as you can. Walking on a leash, which I know seems weird for a farm dog, but if you need to go into town, or that dog needs to go somewhere, you're going to love that they can walk on a leash.
Start right away. Don't wait, because any habit that they pick up, they're going to carry for the rest of their life. After that, like Em was talking about vaccines, huge. For our dogs, especially cats might even be more important, but for our dogs, we need to have those vaccines in place. Now there's a core set of vaccines. One shot that covers distemper and a couple other respiratory viruses and a GI virus called parvo. That is absolutely necessary, I think, for every dog across the board. That disease can be carried by all sorts of different wildlife, everything else. You need to have their vaccine in place.
Rabies is another one that you have to have in place mostly because if that dog does, for whatever reason, bite a human, it protects that dog if they're vaccinated from having to be tested. The only way we can test for the rabies virus is to actually look at the brain. Take the brain out of the dog and look at it. Obviously, the dog's not going to live through that. The rabies vaccine is really important, not only because that disease is fatal once clinical signs start in any species, but also because it protects your dog if something were to happen in that sense.
Emily: Especially a lot of our farm dogs or outdoor dogs, too. They may run across raccoons or possums or any number of things that they could get rabies from.
Joe: In Minnesota, skunks are our number one carrier of rabies. You know that they're around, they love to live under buildings. The dogs always-- They get sprayed, which is also dangerous for them actually, but yes, skunks carry most of the rabies in this area in Minnesota. I think we've all been around a dog who's been sprayed before and tangled with a skunk. It's a real possibility and it should be something you do. After that, on the vaccine side, it's something that you talk about with your veterinarian. With these dogs that are outside all the time, I think vaccination for lepto and lyme is something you should consider.
Leptospirosis, just like in cattle, carried by mice and deer associated with stagnant water. We all know farm dogs drink out of whatever puddle they find. Something I would consider for sure. Lyme disease as well with ticks and everything else around. I think that being outside all the time, banging through the woods or the tall grass, working cattle, whatever they do, ticks are a real issue as well. Those are the vaccines on the dog side that I truly advocate for. The most important being the distemper and the rabies vaccine.
Emily: One thing I would add going back to what you were saying before, Joe, about training and the importance of that, I would remind our farmers out there that if you have 4-H kids, most counties have a 4-H dog project. Your kids can take the dog through obedience training and agility training and showmanship and all that fun stuff. That's actually what I did with our dog. Duncan, prior to his amputation, was my show dog, but I retired him after that. Then the dog we got after Duncan, Dixie, she was my girl, for sure. We made it all the way to the state 4-H Dog Show. We were a reserve champion in our obedience class.
That's my other special dog. There's just community obedience classes and just those things. Those especially are really great for leash-training dogs and getting them used to simple commands. Sit, stay, lay down, all of those. If you have kids, it's a really fun project for them. I know I really felt a lot of ownership over it, training the dog, and then teaching what I learned to my family so that we all use the same commands. It was a really, really great experience. There you go. Bonus 4-H project.
Joe: Let's talk about the next most important thing, and we're going to talk about cattle actually, for a second. Dogs and cats, both of them benefit from the proper body condition. Actually, dogs and cats are graded on the exact same scale as beef cattle. One through nine, ideal being five, body condition is huge. There's been a couple of studies, Purina did one of them, where they looked at keeping dogs at the correct body condition versus just keeping them slightly over, or allowing dogs to eat as much as they wanted and then being quite a bit overweight.
What they found is that having the dog the correct body condition its full life actually meant that you, on average, spent two more years with your dog. We're talking about a big chunk of their life. If you've got a lifespan of 12 to 15 years, or 8 to 10 with our large breed dogs, two years is a long time. It really is important. Now, I'm a big proponent of dog food. I don't think anybody should be really spending the time to cook for their dog, or feeding a raw diet, which is even the worst idea. Dog food is great. Dogs don't need variety. They want the same thing every day. That's fine, and that's perfect.
I'm also not a huge proponent of real expensive food, unless you want to buy it. I think as long as you stick with the four big companies, where they actually do trials on dogs and they have really good research behind their food, I think that's great. You don't have to spend a ton of money to get dog food that's going to work. The big four companies would be IAMS, Royal Canin, Hills, and Purina. Those four, I really, really trust. They do a great job. Their diets are tested really, really well. Quality control is there. Yes, you don't have to spend $100 a bag on food to make it a good food and have it work, but you got to control body condition because that is really, really important.
Emily: All right. Joe, another thing that I think we need to talk about. Again, this is based on a lot of my experiences growing up, and that is spaying and neutering our dogs on the farm. I mentioned our dog after Duncan. Her name was Dixie. She was half yellow lab, half something that came into the yard one night. We got her from a neighbor. While puppies are great, and we were very grateful to have her, it did kind of bring up conversations about spaying and neutering. Of course, we got her spayed as soon as she was old enough. Just talk a little bit about the importance of that.
Joe: Yes. It's a very individual choice. Some people choose not to neuter or spay their animals, which is fine, but it does come with the risks of having puppies unexpectedly, or being on the other end and having your dog wander off to the neighbor's and cause that pregnancy. I think some of the misconceptions about neutering are that it really changes behavior drastically. The only really documented behavior that changes in a significant way is anything related to seeking a female. That's ranging and leaving the farm to go searching for love. Any of those behaviors related directly to that change.
For the most part, attitude, aggression, all these other things don't change with a neuter. You got to keep that in mind and have the right expectations. It's really important for our male dogs, in my mind, to neuter because it keeps them closer to home. It's much safer for them because they're a lot less likely to go on the road, all these other things. I really am a big fan of doing that. Now, I like to wait. It depends on the breed of the dog. Most of our farm dogs aren't little, tiny, white fluffy dogs. They're a little bigger, so I'd like to wait at least a year.
If we got really big dogs, we're talking Great Danes, Irish Wolfhounds, that kind of thing, then we're waiting closer to two, just to make sure that all their joints are grown as much as they should be before we take that testosterone away. I think that's really the big thing is that makes your dog safer. They stay closer to home. They're less likely to wander. It's really, really important, and it keeps you from getting to a spot where you get the neighbor's dog pregnant. On the female side, it's a little different, and it's a little controversial right now. Not controversial, but there's a lot of debate on when the timing of spaying should happen.
We know that every time we go through a heat cycle, we pretty much double the chance of ovarian cancer for that female dog. Hey, everybody, it's Dr. Joe. I misspoke in this episode. I don't know where my brain was. I said ovarian cancer, and what I meant was mammary cancer. When talking about spaying dogs and we're talking about when to do it, each heat cycle increases the chance of mammary cancer.
It's a really big deal for cats because mammary cancers and cats are really, really, really aggressive. In dogs less so, but they still can be malignant. It's something we need to worry about. Everything else I said applies, but I misspoke. It's not ovarian cancer, it's mammary cancer. All right, let's jump back in.
Initially, it's not that big a deal in my opinion, it's not that big a deal because it doubles, but it goes from a really small number to another really small number but if you leave that over and over and over again, the chances of getting cancer goes up quite a bit. I think the timing is what we need to look at. The timing is, their first heat cycle is anywhere between 6 and 8 months, 9 months, 10 months, depending on the breed, but I don't mind if they go through one heat.
A lot of people like to do that for whatever reason. That's fine. If you know you're not going to breed the dog, there's no reason to leave that female dog unspayed or intact. If you're not going to breed them or you have no intention of breeding them, so you might as well get it done. I think six to eight months is a good timeframe before the first heat is fine. If you want to let them go through one heat cycle, great, and then do it after that but you do have to leave some time after that heat cycle to make sure that, that uterus isn't too fragile for the surgery. It's a great idea. Now when we talk about cats, man, it's even more important.
I think we've all seen cats multiply pretty quickly as evidenced by the Kitty Ranch, the Dale Krekelberg Farm, they can multiply very fast.
Emily: Yes, that is mostly internal growth, not additional cats coming in.
Joe: It's the same behavior with our male cats too. Most of our Tomcats will wander. They bounce from farm to farm looking for female cats on heat. If you have a Tomcat that you really like and you want him to be safe and you want him to stick around, neutering is a great idea. Now because Tomcat move around all the time, your population control probably, if you want to control the population of cats in your farm, is in spaying the females that you like and getting that figured out because yes, there's always a Tomcat around bouncing from farm to farm.
You can try to neuter them all you want, there's always going to be another one that's intact that's going to find its way to your farm. I think spaying the females if you really want to get after it is the way to control your cat population if that's the route you want to go.
Emily: Is there anything else related to dogs, Joe, that we should be talking about before we move on to cats?
Joe: I think the big thing we haven't quite talked about yet is preventatives for heartworm and flea and tick preventatives. Those are huge. These dogs are outside all day. They come into contact with wildlife, they come into contact with dogs from the farm next door, cats, and fleas are a nuisance for these dogs and they're really uncomfortable. Flea and tick preventatives are really, really important. I have my dogs on them year-round just because the fleas are still around in the winter, even though the ticks are probably most of the time gone, depending on how warm it gets in some of our weird winter days. Then I have my dogs on the heartworm preventative year-round as well.
The reason I do that is mostly because I have a young kid in the house and I don't want him to have contact with any of the internal GI parasites that the dogs get just from eating random stuff in the yard and anything else. I think that's why I do it because it does work as a monthly dewormer when those GI parasites get into someone who is immunosuppressed or young or old, they can do some weird things and end up in some weird spots. It's just something that I think about all the time.
I do that year-round as well. Now, the heartworm itself, yes, I know it's transferred by mosquitoes and that's not going to be a thing year-round, but I do like to deworm my dog monthly. That's why I do it year-round. On the flea and tick side, there's a lot of cool preventatives for farmers that last a long time too. There's collars now that last eight months. That's a really nice option where you, you can put it on your dog and not worry about it, and not have to give a pill or do something every month. I really like that option for farmers, especially on the flea and tick side.
Emily: All right. Is it time to move on to cats?
Joe: Yes, we can talk about cats quick. We've covered some of what we needed to with cats already. Same thing applies with food, body condition, getting that correct if you have cats that you want to stick around. Vaccines are huge issue. That's how you keep the cats that you like alive is vaccines because we have so many numbers. We have cats traveling from farm to farm, wildlife, all this other stuff, those vaccines become incredibly important. Same kind of thing. We have a small core of vaccines and then some that you can add if you feel like you need it. Our core includes protection for some upper respiratory diseases that can turn into neurologic diseases and cause some effects on the eyes.
Then prevention for feline distemper, it's a different virus. It doesn't affect the dogs, but it has similar clinical signs. That's the one I worry about the most. It's actually feline panleukopenia virus, which it's the number one killer of cats, especially unvaccinated cats, and kittens. If you got cats that you want to keep around and kittens that you or a litter that you love, you got to get them vaccinated because it's a huge protection for them. Then the same discussion with rabies cats as are unpredictable and can be cantankerous at best sometimes.
Getting a cat bite is a serious deal, not only because of the bacteria but because there is the risk of rabies there as well. You want to be vaccinated for that. There's other diseases, I think, you got to talk to your veterinarian about them because it gets a little complex on when you give those vaccines and why and if you have to do some testing first.
Emily: I have a question, Joe. On the food thing with cats. Like you, I've been to a lot of farms in my life and seen a lot of different set-ups and management styles and whatever, including with pets. There are some people that believe that they should not have food available for their cats because if they do, they won't mouse. I'm just curious what your thoughts are on that. I know we, growing up the cats would eat the dog food if they were hungry, which good or bad, I don't know but then later on we did start putting out cat food, but not a lot and we had quite a few cats and we didn't see any difference in, oh they don't catch mice if there's food available.
Joe: When it comes down to it, cats are killers and they like it and they do it because that's their job and what they're bred to do. I don't think we should be putting out food non-stop and in massive amounts. I think that that would affect things, but putting some food out is fine. The dog food thing, it depends on what your cats are doing. If they were to only eat dog food, that wouldn't work because cats are obligate carnivores. They have different new nutrient requirements than a dog but if they're eating some dog food and mousing, they should be fine. It's so ingrained into them that they should be mousing or most cats, it's ingrained into them.
There's going to be a lazy one every once in a while. We've all seen them, but it's so ingrained to them that they should be doing that, that I wouldn't worry about it too much, but I would stop putting out food if I all of a sudden saw every cat getting super fat. There's no reason to have food out if they're clearly providing for themselves and doing their job, which is what we want them to do. Bradley, we haven't heard from you in a while. Do you have a favorite dog or a cat even that you had growing up on the farm or maybe you do now?
Bradley: Well, of course, I have favorites, but I had a dog when I was young and I think my parents got her when I was a year old or something. She lived for 17 years. It was a German spitz, so white Eskimo-type dog. Her name was Spitzy, yes.
Joe: Super creative.
Bradley: Not very thoughtful of a name, but sure. Yes, I had that dog growing up for a long time. That's the only dog I ever knew. Of course, we have one now. It's a lab-boxer mix that my kids have. She's 11 years old now. Yes, we have lots of dogs that live a long time and we have had a few house cats growing up. I think one of my cats that I got from my great-uncle, we loved Calico cats and I still do. I'm a Calico cat fan and she was 22 when she died, and her name was Kitty. There's a theme there with our names.
Emily: The creativity on these names just tells me everything I need to know about the Heins family. Practical, logical people.
Bradley: Exactly. Practical. Practical. We've had a lot of our animals have lived a long time. Those are the tough ones when they live. When you have dogs and cats that live for 17 to 22 years.
Joe: Before we wrap things up here, Emily has a story she's dying to tell. She has refused to tell Bradley and I the story yet. She wanted us to hear it for the first time on the podcast. Take it away, Em.
Emily: First, Joe, tell everybody what was the one detail I did give you.
Joe: The only detail we have, as we start this story, is that it's a nearly decapitated cat. That's the only details we have so far.
Emily: [laughs] Growing up, I talked before about our dog Duncan. I'm honestly not sure if it was a kitten or a cat that wandered onto our farm, or a cat somebody dropped off. One way or another, we ended up with this orange, yellowy tomcat. Was very similar in color to Duncan. My sister and I named him Sunny because he was bright and sunny looking. Best buddies with Duncan on this and that. As I mentioned, he was a tomcat, so he was intact. He was a good cat, good mouser. I can't remember if I already said this, he was friendly. Not all the farm cats were super friendly, but Sunny really liked people.
There was a period of time where we didn't see him for a couple of days, and you know Tomcats, so he must have been wandering. Then he reappeared back on the farm, and he was in very, very rough shape. Our best guess is that he got attacked by something. What it was, I don't know, but it must have had really sharp claws because he had a very, very big cut around most of his neck. By some miracle, it missed his jugular, so he wasn't bleeding out really bad. It was bloody, but he wouldn't want us near him. We tried to catch him to see if he should go to the vet or potentially be euthanized. To be clear, his head did appear to be falling off. It was just slopping down to the side.
By some miracle of nature, I don't know, Sunny pulled through. He actually regrew a lot of that tissue on his neck. The unfortunate side effect was that he had no way to hold his head in the right place, so his neck fully healed, but healed with his head turned sideways. [chuckles] This cat, after this, he lived at least another six or seven years. He was basically decapitated and just [chuckles] kept on rolling. He was a tough cat, and I'm glad he made it because like I said, if we had caught him, we were going to look at potentially euthanizing him because we didn't want him to be in pain, and get infected, and have other stuff happen. Yes, he pulled through. He was an amazing cat. [chuckles]
Joe: That is amazing. I'm surprised with your love of Harry Potter that you didn't change his name to Nearly Headless Neck.
Emily: This occurred, I believe, prior to Harry Potter being really big.
Joe: That was a while ago then?
Emily: Yes.
Joe: They're tough. They're tough, just like most of our farm animals, they're real tough.
Emily: He continued to sire litters and mouse and do all of his jobs. He just had a few months where we wasn't quite useful. Once he had his head attached again, he was back in the game.
Joe: [chuckles] That's good. Those are good genetics to have at the Dale Krekelberg Kitty Ranch. With that story, I think we've said all we need to say today. If you have comments, questions, getting rebuttals, you can email those to themoosroom@umn.edu.
Emily: That's T-H-E-M-O-O-S-R-O-O-M@umn.edu. On Twitter @UMNmoosroom and @UMNFarmSafety. You can find Bradley on Instagram @umnwcrocdairy. They have been posting a lot of really good stuff recently about how they overwinter the cattle, and I just saw a post recently on the group housing for the heifers that they do. Be sure to check that out so you can see what's happening there and more.
Joe: We also have a voicemail. If anybody would like to call in and leave us a question, we'll play your question on the podcast, and then answer it with us hearing it for the first time. That number is 612-624-3610. All right. I think that's all we got. Thanks, everybody.
Emily: Bye.
Joe: Bye.
Bradley: Buh-bye.
Joe: Buh-bye.
Emily: That's how my dad says goodbye on the phone. He goes, "Buh-bye." It's very cool.
Bradley: When grandma was out, it was never goodbye, it was always, "Toodle-oo."
Joe: Toodle-oo.
Emily: Toodle-oo. Toodle-oo.
Joe: Toodle-oo.
Bradley: I'm a Calico cat fan. I'm a Calico cat fan. I'm a Calico cat fan.
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